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	<title>Comments on: Do you love Pandora? Get ready for heartbreak&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
		<link>http://www.hearya.com/2008/08/20/do-you-love-pandora-get-ready-for-heartbreak/comment-page-1/#comment-185735</link>
		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The success of others only offends the weak.  Miraculously my pandora keeps playing music even though they have been dealt a lethal blow.  Maybe the good-times police haven&#039;t noticed yet.  Prediction FAIL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The success of others only offends the weak.  Miraculously my pandora keeps playing music even though they have been dealt a lethal blow.  Maybe the good-times police haven&#8217;t noticed yet.  Prediction FAIL.</p>
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		<title>By: Relevance6</title>
		<link>http://www.hearya.com/2008/08/20/do-you-love-pandora-get-ready-for-heartbreak/comment-page-1/#comment-119177</link>
		<dc:creator>Relevance6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope that Pandora can outlast! I love it, and I have never been exposed to such wonderful music through the radio, and I am sure that I would never have been.  I have slightly eccentric music tastes and Pandora is totally there to supply it for me! I LOVE PANDORA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope that Pandora can outlast! I love it, and I have never been exposed to such wonderful music through the radio, and I am sure that I would never have been.  I have slightly eccentric music tastes and Pandora is totally there to supply it for me! I LOVE PANDORA!</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.hearya.com/2008/08/20/do-you-love-pandora-get-ready-for-heartbreak/comment-page-1/#comment-110649</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this ever was the case, it&#039;s no longer the case. Pandora is here to stay!!!! AMAZING SERVICE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this ever was the case, it&#8217;s no longer the case. Pandora is here to stay!!!! AMAZING SERVICE!</p>
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		<title>By: oz</title>
		<link>http://www.hearya.com/2008/08/20/do-you-love-pandora-get-ready-for-heartbreak/comment-page-1/#comment-95975</link>
		<dc:creator>oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you mean &quot;you&#039;re dumb.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you mean &#8220;you&#8217;re dumb.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DA WEX</title>
		<link>http://www.hearya.com/2008/08/20/do-you-love-pandora-get-ready-for-heartbreak/comment-page-1/#comment-95940</link>
		<dc:creator>DA WEX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks like your dumb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like your dumb</p>
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		<title>By: oz</title>
		<link>http://www.hearya.com/2008/08/20/do-you-love-pandora-get-ready-for-heartbreak/comment-page-1/#comment-45657</link>
		<dc:creator>oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radiohead is a great case study for a band with a brand. They have global fans as customers salivating for new releases.  It would be like Apple saying they are done selling iPods in Best Buy.  Would anyone care? You&#039;d buy from their site directly or go to an Apple store. I see lines, 100 people deep, waiting to buy iPhones at Apple stores in the bay area.

The big challenge is for new startup bands launching themselves and their music. Radiohead&#039;s model wouldn&#039;t work for them. They need services like Pandora to get their music plugged into thousands of new ears, hopefully with a click through to buy their album.  Imagine if you built an mp3 player out of your house that was somehow better than the iPod (I know, work with me). If you launched it, where would you go? Where the consumers already are - Amazon and eBay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radiohead is a great case study for a band with a brand. They have global fans as customers salivating for new releases.  It would be like Apple saying they are done selling iPods in Best Buy.  Would anyone care? You&#8217;d buy from their site directly or go to an Apple store. I see lines, 100 people deep, waiting to buy iPhones at Apple stores in the bay area.</p>
<p>The big challenge is for new startup bands launching themselves and their music. Radiohead&#8217;s model wouldn&#8217;t work for them. They need services like Pandora to get their music plugged into thousands of new ears, hopefully with a click through to buy their album.  Imagine if you built an mp3 player out of your house that was somehow better than the iPod (I know, work with me). If you launched it, where would you go? Where the consumers already are &#8211; Amazon and eBay.</p>
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		<title>By: the OCMD</title>
		<link>http://www.hearya.com/2008/08/20/do-you-love-pandora-get-ready-for-heartbreak/comment-page-1/#comment-45648</link>
		<dc:creator>the OCMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically, I just read an article in the Washington Post last night on this same topic and was fuming all evening.  You can fault Pandora&#039;s business model all you want, but the reality is that the royalty system is not structured fairly.  Terrestrial radio stations pay zero royalties, thanks to their corporate parents and lobbying power.  Satellite stations pay some royalties but Internet radio stations like Pandora are getting raped.  It&#039;s clearly a ploy to shut down Internet based music sites.  

It&#039;s inevitable that the music industry is headed to where companies like Pandora are going.  It just might take the fall of a giant like Pandora for people to wake up and start caring.  The fight isn&#039;t over.  But it&#039;s high time the music industry - and labels - stop looking at shared files as lost sales and start treating it as a reality upon which to build their business.  And use Radiohead as a case study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, I just read an article in the Washington Post last night on this same topic and was fuming all evening.  You can fault Pandora&#8217;s business model all you want, but the reality is that the royalty system is not structured fairly.  Terrestrial radio stations pay zero royalties, thanks to their corporate parents and lobbying power.  Satellite stations pay some royalties but Internet radio stations like Pandora are getting raped.  It&#8217;s clearly a ploy to shut down Internet based music sites.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s inevitable that the music industry is headed to where companies like Pandora are going.  It just might take the fall of a giant like Pandora for people to wake up and start caring.  The fight isn&#8217;t over.  But it&#8217;s high time the music industry &#8211; and labels &#8211; stop looking at shared files as lost sales and start treating it as a reality upon which to build their business.  And use Radiohead as a case study.</p>
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		<title>By: oz</title>
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		<dc:creator>oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point and yes, I did say that.  But here&#039;s the thing -  Port O&#039;Brien probably isn&#039;t going to be played on your local station, unless it&#039;s local college radio. POB is out there trying to build their name and find an audience. Pandora gives them an opportunity that legacy radio doesn&#039;t.  The economics paid out in Pandora&#039;s model should be smaller if they support legions of artists.  There&#039;s a tradeooff. Support very few bands and share more royalties or reduce royalties across a multitude of bands. 

I agree that great bands are suffering right now. Consumers have the same budget for music, but now have 100 times the choices when deciding what to buy (or if they&#039;ll just find it for free somewhere). Pandora&#039;s royalties aren&#039;t going to move the needle for these bands. In the article you&#039;ll read this comment by Matt Nathanson - &quot;Net radio is good for musicians like me, and I think most musicians are like me,&quot; he said. &quot;The promotion it provides is far more important than the revenue.&quot; 

Pandora&#039;s model may be flawed in in its current form, but what if bands entered the platform opting out of royalties and entering into ad- revenue sharing model like imeem? Usually when you have millions of loyal daily users, you&#039;re doing something right. 

It&#039;ll be interesting to see what happens in the coming months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point and yes, I did say that.  But here&#8217;s the thing &#8211;  Port O&#8217;Brien probably isn&#8217;t going to be played on your local station, unless it&#8217;s local college radio. POB is out there trying to build their name and find an audience. Pandora gives them an opportunity that legacy radio doesn&#8217;t.  The economics paid out in Pandora&#8217;s model should be smaller if they support legions of artists.  There&#8217;s a tradeooff. Support very few bands and share more royalties or reduce royalties across a multitude of bands. </p>
<p>I agree that great bands are suffering right now. Consumers have the same budget for music, but now have 100 times the choices when deciding what to buy (or if they&#8217;ll just find it for free somewhere). Pandora&#8217;s royalties aren&#8217;t going to move the needle for these bands. In the article you&#8217;ll read this comment by Matt Nathanson &#8211; &#8220;Net radio is good for musicians like me, and I think most musicians are like me,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The promotion it provides is far more important than the revenue.&#8221; </p>
<p>Pandora&#8217;s model may be flawed in in its current form, but what if bands entered the platform opting out of royalties and entering into ad- revenue sharing model like imeem? Usually when you have millions of loyal daily users, you&#8217;re doing something right. </p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see what happens in the coming months.</p>
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		<title>By: A H</title>
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		<dc:creator>A H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t you just get done saying Port O&#039;Brien is having a hard time dealing with the cost of gas?  So why can&#039;t it be the bands asking for an increase in royalties?  I love music, but at the end of the day, someone&#039;s gotta get paid or their won&#039;t be any music for you to blog about... I also love Pandora, but let&#039;s be honest, they built a website with a model that requires them to spend increasing sums of money with each new user, having no real viable revenue model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t you just get done saying Port O&#8217;Brien is having a hard time dealing with the cost of gas?  So why can&#8217;t it be the bands asking for an increase in royalties?  I love music, but at the end of the day, someone&#8217;s gotta get paid or their won&#8217;t be any music for you to blog about&#8230; I also love Pandora, but let&#8217;s be honest, they built a website with a model that requires them to spend increasing sums of money with each new user, having no real viable revenue model.</p>
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