Comments on: Are Band of Horses Sellouts? http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/ Indie Music Blog, Live Sessions, and Daily MP3 Downloads. Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:12:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Are The Moldy Peaches Sellouts? at HearYa - Indie Music Blog http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-38095 Are The Moldy Peaches Sellouts? at HearYa - Indie Music Blog Fri, 16 May 2008 15:55:44 +0000 http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-38095 [...] Remember? We discussed this. [...] [...] Remember? We discussed this. [...]

]]> By: chuck http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-37834 chuck Mon, 12 May 2008 21:23:13 +0000 http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-37834 just because a band just because a band

]]> By: Mike http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-36913 Mike Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:46:04 +0000 http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-36913 So whaddya mean by sellout? Being successful (and gettin' your stuff heard in commercial spaces) isn't necessarily selling out. It becomes selling out if you change your art to cozy up to commerce and schmooze extra bucks. Like if they'd re-wrote a Walmart version of Funeral that'd be selling out - but if Walmart just bought their product as it was - so what? But there's gotta be some things that are just totally outside the cool zone when it comes to the sellout-ometer. Can you ever let McDonald's or the Republican Party use your music, without it being a sellout as a matter of general principle? So whaddya mean by sellout? Being successful (and gettin’ your stuff heard in commercial spaces) isn’t necessarily selling out. It becomes selling out if you change your art to cozy up to commerce and schmooze extra bucks. Like if they’d re-wrote a Walmart version of Funeral that’d be selling out - but if Walmart just bought their product as it was - so what?

But there’s gotta be some things that are just totally outside the cool zone when it comes to the sellout-ometer. Can you ever let McDonald’s or the Republican Party use your music, without it being a sellout as a matter of general principle?

]]> By: runaway dorothy http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-35600 runaway dorothy Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:20:51 +0000 http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-35600 I can't call any Carolina boy a sell-out. North or South. I can’t call any Carolina boy a sell-out. North or South.

]]> By: Red http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-24700 Red Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:24:03 +0000 http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-24700 Anybody that is such a music snob as to discredit a band's music just because it was used on some form of media other than a purchased album has got to come off their high horse. I challenge anyone that feels that way to really think about what they would do in a similar situation. Sure, it's easy to yell 'sellout!' when it's not your career at stake. Other than a few bands like Fugazi, I'm pretty confident that just about everyone would be freely licensing their music to whoever could get their hands on it. Anybody that is such a music snob as to discredit a band’s music just because it was used on some form of media other than a purchased album has got to come off their high horse. I challenge anyone that feels that way to really think about what they would do in a similar situation. Sure, it’s easy to yell ’sellout!’ when it’s not your career at stake. Other than a few bands like Fugazi, I’m pretty confident that just about everyone would be freely licensing their music to whoever could get their hands on it.

]]> By: oz http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-18271 oz Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:01:55 +0000 http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-18271 Great points, Jim. I guess Hank Williams Jr. doing Super Bowl songs may qualify as a sellout? Great points, Jim. I guess Hank Williams Jr. doing Super Bowl songs may qualify as a sellout?

]]> By: Free Band of Horses Download at Starbucks at HearYa: An Indie Music Blog http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-18254 Free Band of Horses Download at Starbucks at HearYa: An Indie Music Blog Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:55:04 +0000 http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-18254 [...] Don’t you call them sellouts. Don’t you do it. Band of Horses’ song “No One’s Gonna Love You” is available with your morning cup of joe today at Starbucks. [...] [...] Don’t you call them sellouts. Don’t you do it. Band of Horses’ song “No One’s Gonna Love You” is available with your morning cup of joe today at Starbucks. [...]

]]> By: Jim http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-18250 Jim Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:07:52 +0000 http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-18250 I think selling out is what happens when you are selling yourself, rather than the song. Like Eric Clapton selling beer--that is pure selling out, because he's selling Eric Clapton, not the music. If an unknown band sells their music, they're not selling themselves, yet, because they're still unknown. (Although the line is somewhat blurry, because not only is Wal-Mart or whoever getting some music for their ad, they are getting (or trying to get) some indie cred by using an indie artist, and in that sense the artist gets used for who they are, rather than for their music.) Then the other part is, even if you're unknown, and you're just selling your music and not yourself, I think you're selling out if you don't pay attention to who is using the music. Like sell your music to Whole Foods, maybe, but, why advertise for somebody like Wal-Mart, or Exxon, etc. who is fucking up society and the planet, etc. The other thing is, to a lot of people, they hear music in an ad and like it and want to know who it is. To me, it ruins the song--I always associate it with the ad and whatever the ad is selling. I think selling out is what happens when you are selling yourself, rather than the song. Like Eric Clapton selling beer–that is pure selling out, because he’s selling Eric Clapton, not the music. If an unknown band sells their music, they’re not selling themselves, yet, because they’re still unknown. (Although the line is somewhat blurry, because not only is Wal-Mart or whoever getting some music for their ad, they are getting (or trying to get) some indie cred by using an indie artist, and in that sense the artist gets used for who they are, rather than for their music.)

Then the other part is, even if you’re unknown, and you’re just selling your music and not yourself, I think you’re selling out if you don’t pay attention to who is using the music. Like sell your music to Whole Foods, maybe, but, why advertise for somebody like Wal-Mart, or Exxon, etc. who is fucking up society and the planet, etc.

The other thing is, to a lot of people, they hear music in an ad and like it and want to know who it is. To me, it ruins the song–I always associate it with the ad and whatever the ad is selling.

]]> By: KateF http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-18118 KateF Sat, 06 Oct 2007 00:20:52 +0000 http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-18118 I don't really care if they are sellouts, as long as I can listen to "Everything All the Time" while lying on the living room floor with my dog. Meah. I don’t really care if they are sellouts, as long as I can listen to “Everything All the Time” while lying on the living room floor with my dog. Meah.

]]> By: HearYa Session 7: Ferraby Lionheart at HearYa: An Indie Music Blog http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-18052 HearYa Session 7: Ferraby Lionheart at HearYa: An Indie Music Blog Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:29:26 +0000 http://www.hearya.com/2007/09/21/are-band-of-horses-sellouts/#comment-18052 [...] As Oz so lovingly put it, “I’d rather the artists (sic) make the money they deserve and continue to put out quality music … instead of answering phones in a cubicle.” Selling out in the indie world has been a long debated topic, yet when it comes down to it, the artists need money. Even if it is only to continue making music. Whether through CD sales, touring, merchandise, or — GASP! — commercialization, bills need to be paid. [...] [...] As Oz so lovingly put it, “I’d rather the artists (sic) make the money they deserve and continue to put out quality music … instead of answering phones in a cubicle.” Selling out in the indie world has been a long debated topic, yet when it comes down to it, the artists need money. Even if it is only to continue making music. Whether through CD sales, touring, merchandise, or — GASP! — commercialization, bills need to be paid. [...]

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